[18:35] (MaGuS).:. FC: What was your desire/goal in the development of Infector?
[18:36] (FC): just want to made a trojan because i like rats
[18:36] : and i found there was need on more rats at this time
[18:36] : there was only s7 netbus bo and incommand
[18:36] : at this time
[18:37] (MaGuS).:. What concept/feature do you consider to be the hardest to program?
[18:37] (FC): i had the must problems with the edit server
[18:37] : it was a pain in the ass
[18:37] : lol
[18:37] (MaGuS).:. ;]
[18:38] (FC): i need to recognize i had lot off support from blade
[18:38] : in the begin later from stoner and bogart�
[18:38] : blade cold mobman all great coders
[18:38] : � have lot of respect for them
[18:38] : also bogart and stoner from incommand
[18:39] (M_R).:. blade was one of the first to give his source code.
[18:39] (FC): yes
[18:40] : but it started all with the release from his bladerunner source
[18:40] : i learned alot from that
[18:40] : then i became friends with him like mr knows
[18:46] (MaGuS).:. How does infector differ from other trojans that have been produced?
[18:47] (MaGuS).:. As in, what is it's differentiality?
[18:48] (FC): i think its not so different, the features are almost same.
Just i keep to use an interface where you can do all the command on one form because i think lot of trojans interface are copies from s7
[18:48] : and alot of people like to have an interface where you can do all commands
[18:48] : on one form
[18:49] (MaGuS).:. yes i agree.....i am who appreciates your style of interface
[18:49] (MaGuS).:. it's very clever
[18:49] (FC): thanx
[18:50] : like the cascade windows etc i think its easy to use interface
[18:51] (MaGuS).:. [M_R would you like to ask some questions?]
[18:51] (FC): any way i think also with the release of my webdownloader.
[18:51] : I made it now while upload trojans are not usefull anymore.
[18:52] (MaGuS).:. Please explain that.
[18:52] (M_R).:. you have ideas for new features?
[18:52] (FC): and i proved that delphi produces not always big servers like people always think.
my webdl server is only 13kb packed
[18:52] (FC): well i made a webdl
[18:53] : when victim run it, it causes dl and run another server and melt then
[18:53] : so from now on upload trojans are not necessary anymore
[18:53] (MaGuS).:. i see
[18:53] (M_R).:. is it not frustrating that AV picks up your server after some days?
[18:53] (FC): yes and no
[18:53] : yes because off all the work
[18:54] : no because we are always one step before them
[18:54] (MaGuS).:. referring to M_R's question: Do you have ideas of any new features?
[18:54] (M_R).:. yes, and less are full updated
[18:55] : yes i will add in infector 1.8 a full ftp server like cute ftp or so
[18:55] (MaGuS).:. nice ;]
[18:55] (FC): so it will be the first trojan after DeepThroat with a full working ftp server
[18:55] : you can make directory, delete folders, download big files, upload big files etc
[18:56] : also i have other never seen features in view
[18:56] : like deltree, change recycle, change start button etc
[18:57] : also port redirect will be added
[18:57] : and more
[18:57] (MaGuS): any way to come back at mr his question
[18:57] (M_R).:. What you think about infecting others by sending out the server by e-mail, like worms do
[18:57] (FC): about av
[18:58] : i think infector is the only trojan who always release an unpacked server
[18:59] : so if you use new packers it stay longer time undetected
[19:00] : i like the idea from mr about worms
[19:00] : i think its the future
[19:00] : to infect that way
[19:00] (MaGuS).:. What do you think about the release of S7 2.2 right around the corner?
[19:00] (M_R).:. yes, packing servers is a good step. The other is open source. But can more be done?
[19:01] (FC): i am against open source
[19:01] : because blade released his source
[19:01] : for people to improve that trojan
[19:02] : but release source can be bad to then you create lamers like syphillis
[19:02] (MaGuS).:. Why do you think syph is a lamer? ;]
[19:03] (FC): he is
[19:03] : why'''
[19:03] (MaGuS).:. yeah
[19:03] (MaGuS).:. ;]
[19:03] (FC): well im crew s7 since the start from s7 crew
[19:04] : syphillis was always bragging he gonne make a better trojan then s7
[19:04] : always chilling at mobman
[19:04] (MaGuS).:. and what about putting HDKP4 into the bonus server?
[19:04] (FC): but syphillis never proved something
[19:04] : so for me hi is a lamer
[19:04] .01.(MaGuS).:. because you destroyed his hard drive
[19:04] .01.(MaGuS).:. ;]
[19:04] (FC): untill he proves what he is saying
[19:05] : mobman proved everything he not
[19:05] : about that hd killing
[19:05] : mobman just added his uin
[19:05] : in reg
[19:05] (MaGuS).:. i know
[19:05] (MaGuS).:. but was that ethical?
[19:05] (FC): because syphillis was provocating that
[19:05] : mobman and crew were not able to format his pc
[19:06] : so mobman took the challenge
[19:06] (MaGuS).:. what do you mean?
[19:06] (FC): so mobman won on every line
[19:06] (MaGuS).:. syphillis challenged you?
[19:06] (FC): not me mobman and s7crew
[19:06] (MaGuS).:. ahh
[19:06] (FC): mobman his trojan is the best and he won the challenge against syphillis
[19:07] (MaGuS).:. ok
[19:07] (FC): because syphillis did not make anything special until today
[19:07] : he always was jealous of mobman
[19:08] : anyway i am just neutral in all this shit about syphillis
[19:08] : � just think mobman was right
[19:08] : anyway mobman, blade, cold, all good coders were never acting like syphillis
[19:09] (MaGuS).:. M_R, anything to ask?
[19:09] (FC): also dont forget stoner and bogart also become kickass coders
[19:09] : o yeah for mr
[19:09] : i look
[19:09] : and try to add the webcam notify
[19:10] (M_R).:. You know they erased the harddisk of syphillis?
[19:10] (FC): yes
[19:10] : it happened more then once.
[19:11] (M_R).:. you want to tell about it?
[19:11] (FC): sure
[19:11] : why not
[19:12] : well syphillis was more then once infected
[19:12] : by s7 crew members
[19:12] : once they dl all his sources
[19:14] (M_R).:. you were crew that time?
[19:14] (FC): yes
[19:15] (MaGuS).:. s7 crew was able to steal syphillis source?
[19:15] (FC): yes
[19:16] : anyway that war with syphillis is not from today
[19:17] : its already more then 1.5 years
[19:17] : he was always against mobman
[19:17] : and i dont know why
[19:17] : well i guess
[19:17] : it was because
[19:17] : once in a about
[19:17] : from s7 2.o
[19:18] : i guess mobman added that syphillis used code from BackOrifice
[19:18] : that started the war i guess
[19:18] (M_R).:. i heard that subseven bonus client checks for Syphillis uin.
If right it erases HD. That is what happened i think. You confirm this story?
[19:18] (FC): yes its true
[19:19] : well it was easy to do that
[19:20] (MaGuS).:. How will the release of S7 2.2 change the trojan community,
since more people use it than any other trojan.
[19:20] (FC): you just add the uin in reg when that uin use the client or software the hd from bubgablalalalal starts to work
[19:21] : anyway to finish about syphillis
[19:21] (M_R).:. k
[19:21] (FC): none has fucked more with him then hellfirez
[19:21] : i think helfirez infected him 10 times
[19:21] : lol
[19:21] : he was a master in killing syphillis
[19:21] (M_R).:. What about hellfirez?
[19:22] (M_R).:. lol, i know some
[19:22] (MaGuS).:. this i havn't heard about
[19:22] (FC): yes ones me and hellfirez made a client
[19:23] : a fake client and released that as the new trojan from syphillis
[19:23] : but in fact it was an infected client to joke
[19:23] (M_R).:. its on MS
[19:23] (FC): yes
[19:23] : lol
[19:23] : so give a bad image about syphillis
[19:24] (M_R).:. poor Syphillis, he attracts it
[19:24] (FC): because none has pissed off mobman like syph did
[19:24] (MaGuS).:. How will the release of S7 2.2 change the trojan community,
since more people use it than any other trojan.
[19:24] (FC): but we kicked him back hardly
[19:24] : even no so long a go
[19:24] : 2 weeks ago i think
[19:24] : hellfirez infected a crew member off syphillis
[19:25] : and ripped source for his new trojan
[19:27] : hellfirez is a master in infect people
[19:27] : also he knows very well irc�
[19:27] (M_R).:. There is a lot of going on behind the curtains
[19:27] (FC): and have always nice ideas
[19:27] : yes no much people knows exactly
[19:28] : the who and what with syphillis
[19:28] : i think he lost the war against mobman
[19:28] : im not talking now as a crew member
[19:28] : but as infector member__))))
[19:28] (M_R).:. How many hours are you working on the computer a day?
[19:29] :(FC) lets say 12
[19:29] : oh i just want to add something
[19:29] : i have lot off respect for people like mobman, blade, cold
[19:29] : etc
[19:30] : because they do everything free
[19:30] (M_R).:. yes
[19:30] (FC): it take a lot off time and energy
[19:30] (M_R).:. they were the first
[19:30] (FC): to code a trojan
[19:30] : and sometimes other people dont respect that
[19:30] (M_R).:. sure
[19:38] (FC): anyway thanx magus and mr for the interview
[19:38] : you both cool guys
[19:39] (MaGuS).:. thanks FC
[19:39] : np magus
[19:39] : nice to speak with you
[19:39] *** Disconnected
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